• futatorius@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 day ago

    It’s inevitable they’ll do everything they can to degrade the usability of their shitty products.

  • msbeta1421@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    59
    ·
    7 days ago

    I hate stuff like this because screen grabs during meetings or lectures is my favorite way to take notes.

    • xavier666@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      edit-2
      6 days ago

      Nooooo. If you do that, you won’t be paying for Teams Premium which has built in support for screen recording. Think of the revenue lost 😭😭

      Edit: I should add /s incase people think I’m a Microsoft shill

  • wewbull@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    85
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    7 days ago

    My company is transitioning to teams. Most of our engineering is on Linux.

    Can Microsoft please hurry up and break teams so we can’t transition?

      • jamescrakemerani@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        7 days ago

        I have a Linux work laptop which they let us have but we still have to use the MS crap. Fortunately most of it is accessible through the browser but a lot of the Office apps are broken, or missing features on web.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      Don’t worry, teams is always somewhere between 10%-30% broken, always something n doesn’t work, there are always a bunch of people that can’t get in the meeting, that can’t share screens all of the sudden because fuck you, that’s why

      Teams is the absolute worst and not a day goes by without people shitting on it, and we’re only using it because most of our customers do but internally we will switch to something open source soon, because I get to make that decision 😎

      • taladar@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        7 days ago

        I have looked but I just couldn’t find an open source alternative that supported Teams core features like showing an error every time I login.

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        7 days ago

        you know, sometimes I wonder if Matrix could be used in a business setting, and worry about its rough edges and buggy features of Element. but you know what! it would probably be fine! not worse than teams, and at least they don’t want to fuck you over!

    • bitwolf@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      7 days ago

      Those joining from unsupported platforms will be automatically placed in audio-only mode to protect shared content.

      I think this has gone and done it for you

    • iLStrix@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 days ago

      OK, I’m really curious on what programs your engineers use then. Engineering has been one of the use-cases for me, that made it basically impossible to switch to Linux full-time. If you know, please tell me.

        • iLStrix@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 days ago

          Thx for the answer, that makes sense. I’m more in the mechanical sector now and don’t have much to do with silicon design.

        • iLStrix@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 days ago

          I see. Using the browser app certainly doesn’t sound like the optimal solution, but if it works fine, then that’s great. Unfortunately that’s not feasible for my case.

  • lipilee@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    37
    ·
    edit-2
    6 days ago

    now that all the performance, reliability, and usability issues are solved in Teams, it’s great to see all that energy going into this useful feature that is surely not possible to circumvent in any way.

    /s

  • Bieren@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    6 days ago

    This is so you can then use their super cool and completely accurate AI summary tool that will be coming soon.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    38
    ·
    7 days ago

    i mean if someone really wanted to commit espionage they’d just take a photo of the screen with their camera.

    • humorlessrepost@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      7 days ago

      I suspect running teams on Windows in Parallels on a Mac would still let me use the Mac’s screen record feature.

    • phx@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      7 days ago

      Or just use the smartphone camera that almost everyone is going to have anyhow…

      • tauren@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        6 days ago

        Recording a 1h meeting with a smartphone sounds like a nightmare.

        • Kannushi_Link@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          6 days ago

          1hr? Maybe just wear an action camera, if you can sit well in front of the screen during whole meeting. (j/k)

          EDIT: For smartphone, get a selfie stand if you have place to set it up, do not try to hold the phone with your hand for 1 hour.

          • MangoCats@feddit.it
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            6 days ago

            This is the right way, but holding it in their hands will be the way so many clever rebels do it at first.

        • taladar@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          ·
          6 days ago

          Doesn’t matter for the “problem” they are trying to solve. Nobody interested in the “sensitive” information of another company will complain about picture quality if the information is readable enough.

    • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      7 days ago

      Are you stupid? Next week they will sell an add on that let’s you recall the whole meeting. You need to start thinking outside the box if you’re gonna make it in scummy corporate sales.

  • SubUrbanIT@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    6 days ago

    Gonna be difficult to block screen capture when I have a phone in my hand with a camera that can be record what I see.

    • Zacryon@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      6 days ago

      Don’t be so bold. Microsoft is investing in military AI applications. So don’t be surprised when your computer slaps that camera right out of your hands and punches you in the face. /j (or not, idk, things are looking bad)

      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        6 days ago

        There are some autonomous cars with lidar out there where the lidar is so powerful it can wreck a camera close up, but is still safe for eyes.

        Switch up FaceID to use a more powerful laser which will wreck the phones camera, and start making webcams for non macs that are required to have this in them for Teams to work.

  • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    6 days ago

    So you’re saying that I can just start an infinite empty meeting in order to block the AI Recall thing from recording my screen?

  • chunes@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    6 days ago

    There are going to be fifty different bypasses up on github by the end of the week. This makes me want to join a corpo and record their precious meetings

  • gradual@lemmings.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    6 days ago

    More and more, I notice that Microsoft’s ubiquity in our society is to reinforce the idea that we need to take abuse and reward our abusers in order to be successful.

  • toastmeister@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    7 days ago

    This is why they require a TPM, your motherboard will be DRM against you owning the operating system and it will only run signed software.

    • Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 days ago

      I installed Windows 11 with an unsupported CPU, kinda funny how it just worked despite all their screeching that it wouldn’t work and updating not working, but installing with installation media was flawless.

      It’s a real bitch, automatically logging me into my partner’s account for the whole system and overriding my local user settings when I open MS Office apps Excel or Word (but that’s just Windows), and it cries about my lack of TPM on those apps and the Start menu when it does log in and cries about me not being logged into a MS account otherwise, but you know what? Everything still actually operates.

        • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          6 days ago

          An OS is a tool.
          And you are a tool if you use the wrong tool for a purpose.
          E.g. an essential program that only runs on windows and is either impossible or troublesome to run elsewhere.

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            6 days ago

            I agree. That’s why I wouldn’t install Windows 11 on an unsupported CPU in the first place, let alone keep it installed after having one issue after another like the comment I replied to had mentioned.

            Seems like the wrong tool to me.

      • lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        7 days ago

        What CPU?

        The list of unsupported CPUs is for OEMs licensing new computers as Windows 11 certified.

        Nothing stopping you installing Windows 11 or upgrading to Windows 11 with an incompatible CPU.

        The only item that requires a hack is the lack of TPM. Now that I still don’t understand.

        Also, Office by default installs with licensing configured per machine but can be installed so it is licensed per user.

  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    7 days ago

    So many commenters here and at the article get a hard on to bash MS for anything.

    MS won’t make this a requirement, nor will they make using the Teams app a requirement. This isnt some backhanded way to get people to switch from Linux to windows.

    This is MS responding to an enterprise feature request.

    • yesman@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      7 days ago

      The reflexive hate for M$ is not irrational fan-boys bashing a rival, but bitterness over prolonged and profound annoyance, suffering, and downright abuse experienced through using the products produced by that dogshit company.

      I switched because I wanted software that didn’t hate me and my values.

      What’s irrational is the Stockholm-syndrome Windows user who thinks it’s normal and right to run software that spies, advertises, and generally treats users like a resource to be exploited.

    • mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      6 days ago

      The moment a certain company is mentioned in an article, lemmy will go rabid, it doesn’t really matter what the article is about. I am a Linux nerd and if MS crashed and burned tomorrow I wouldn’t exactly shed a tear but the knee jerk reactions are pretty weird to observe.

      • gradual@lemmings.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        6 days ago

        I think it’s more that average users aren’t accustomed to seeing Linux be a larger part of discussions here than on corporate platforms.

    • fatalicus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      6 days ago

      Yeah, commented on the sister thread of this over on the technology subreddit that this wouldnt be a default on feature, and probably be either something the meeting owner has to enable (or tenant admins set to enabled in a policy) or it will be part of sensitivity labels or DLP policies.

      Instant downvote.