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Fact right here. I used to work as a paramedic in a city with a couple of large bridges. So many people suicided off those bridges that it never got reported. It was too common and not shocking enough.

I’m not sure you’ve noticed but…fascist dictator.

I believe it was by airplane.

Bribe. A gold bar is not a gift.

And start practicing goose stepping for the invasion force parades.

Wait until no one shows up like his bigly bestest military parade.

I wish this was a “burial” option over making some creepy guy in a suit richer than he already is because you need just the right box for grandpa’s meat sac.

This blows my mind. I’m that guy who lives rurally and has been poor for a good portion of my life. I make, build and fix pretty much everything we have because we could never afford another one and it’s stupid to not do that anyway. It hurts my brain to think people live like that.

Never once suggested the front man was the entire act. I used a word that you took offence to, “His”, which was simply used to refer to the band that Ozzy was a part of not that he “owned” the band. Then I stated my position and defended it. One that is quite valid and accurate for the band and time period. That’s generally how discussion works. I didn’t make up any alternative history. Without Ozzy Sabbath would not have been what they were. Proven by their lack of success following his departure.

To each their own I suppose, but why.

Edit: damn you certainly have a way of putting words in others mouths. Try stay on track.

Why must it always turn into personal attacks when people realize that their point is actually pointless?

Who’s band when they change their sound so much they basically fall into obscurity after Ozzy leaves?

Dio was a shit front man and his presence lost fans immediately. That they hung in for three more albums was valiant but pointless. Dragging out the death of the band over the next several decades because their sound was so good without Ozzy.

And had Charlie “fired” Mick, the same fate would have befallen the rolling stones as did Sabbath. You could have all sound you want yet without the charisma you had nothing.

Ozzy made it “his band”. That’s what front men did then. The sound came.from the band. The recognition came from the front man. In this case Ozzy.

I’m old. Ozzy was one of my childhood heros.

Ozzy Osbourne aka: the prince of darkness and his band Black Sabbath and later solo Ozzy, are some of the originators of what we now know as heavy metal. Ozzy was well known for onstage theatrics which were popular at the time for bands like Sabbath and Alice Cooper. Big stage shows showing fake gore and violence like the precursors to Gwar. They would act out killing people and animals on stage as part of their showmanship routine and throw offal and guts into the crowd. “Worship Satan”. Have women in lingerie on stage for no reason but to get covered in “blood” or act like they were being murdered. Eventually the crowds started throwing stuff back. One such stage show involved a fan throwing a “live” bat on stage. Ozzy picked it up and bit it’s head off “not knowing” it was alive. There are conflicting stories about this of course.

Much of this also led to the satanic panic we experienced as kids in the 80’s and 90’s.

Likely a lot of these actions were because Ozzy was a raging alcoholic and drug user for much of his professional life. There are lots of interviews with him completely fucked out of his brain. He would intentionally drop acid and booze before said interviews and sometimes even his band mates couldn’t handle him. Like Kieth Richards people even joked that Ozzy would outlive everyone because he had done so much stupid shit publicly over the course of his life and survived.

Ozzy was one of the artists that morphed the huge epic stage shows of the 60’s rock and roll era into the chaos and drama of early heavy metal. Aside from his shortcomings Ozzy was an original rock and roll master.

Why limit yourself.

Both.

Agreed. My own country is one of the most culpable. My disability payments come from a pension plan heavily invested in 'Murica and they refuse to even consider changing. Lots of folks collecting from American investments. Companies. Government. Individuals.

We could have written them off as civilized years ago. I think it’s well beyond that now.

Inhumanity creating more inhumanity. Who would have thought?

My girl is Midnight Killer Sparkles.