what os are you going to use on your smartphone if you remove software from google and apple?

aosp, fdroid, no gservices

what VR headset

not into vr so can’t say

what telecom

sadly, not a good one. i wish i had a choice, but this isn’t software

are you only shopping in local food markets?

sort of? i get fresh stuff from actual markets when i can and when i go for groceries i avoid ultra processed stuff from big multinationals, making sure of the provenance and the maker of the stuff i get, supermarkets also sell stuff from local producers

lemmy creators are bigots

eh, im still leeching off some other person hosting, im not going to host lemmy and im slowly making my own thing

also can you provide examples? i heard it multiple times, I’m not contesting it, just kinda want to see myself, like with vaxry, and not only trust second hand accusations

i don’t want to be a cop and background check

no absolutely fine i don’t check all my software too, but when i hear a callout i dont hide behind “art and artist” mentality and move off the bigot’s stuff

preference is s weak motivation honestly. i prefer google maps yet i still don’t want google and make do with OSM

I’m simply interested in having control over my PC

but you don’t, you still depend on vaxry. can you maintain, update, fix and recompile hyprland yourself? if so, fork it and start boycotting vaxry. if not, what control are you talking about? it’s just preference

this whole argument to me sounds like “i prefer a WM with smooth animations and an active discord so im going to overlook the problematic maintainer im going to give clout to and start depending on”

i’m not on wayland so i can’t try any of these, but there are lists you can browse from (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wayland#Compositors for example)

you are setting quite restrictive and arbitrary limits

well supported

what do you mean?

with smooth animations

what counts as “smooth animations”?

if your message boils down to “something which looks really good to me and that has a discord i can go into and ask for help”, you may have set the requirements tight enough to only include hyprland, but that’s not a valid excuse in my opinion to avoid boycotting problematic developers

your argument is a bit extreme, it doesn’t need to only be software from nice folks, it just needs to not be software made by not nice folks

apart from sqlite, i think everything is replaceable with a bit of compromise

what things made by not nice folks are you locked into?

lemmy is not a great comparison, there’s like 3 alternatives, there are tens if not more hyprland alternatives.

i don’t think software is just software, why would this tech be exempt? pilot-less aircrafts is just tech, just like software, but we do remember that drones bomb people. supporting problematic developers is not “as bad” as building killing machines, but it’s the same principle: looking the other way when it’s convenient. we should aim to ostracize and isolate problematic devs, and it starts by not using their software, because doing so gives them clout and relevance

im moving the cutoff as i age and im not going to stop :p

ok fair i’m only considering short-ish commutes, never 5+ miles

not really, for daily commutes any piece of junk that brakes and rolls will do. rode only ~50 bucks bikes for the last five-ish years, old city bikes are indestructible

you are not proposing a federated amazon, this is just federated ads and/or reviews.

how to process payments? how to ship goods? how to handle refunds? how to handle contestations?

please you can’t just make anything federated. this protocol is built for social media and struggles to take over that sphere, we should focus on one thing rather than throwing random stuff at the wall hoping it sticks (cough federated tik tok cough)

this feels useless at best and entitled at most: if you want these, get working. this is not reddit or Facebook: there is no profit or product, nobody is making money and no money is being spent on development or making sure your requests are met. all the time you spent writing this or replying could have been spent actually researching the app. not a dev? not entitled to complain

simplify user sign ups

you’re basically proposing a centralized service over a decentralized network. who runs that service? how is it guaranteed fair? which servers should be in the pool? what if a server is worse than another spec-wise? what if the assigned server shuts down? the solution to the server issue is you picking a server for your non techie friends, not cooking more centralized complexity on top.

polish/add functionalities

if you really want features developed, make a bounty! pay developers! expecting others to work for your appeasement for free is distastefully entitled. or do it yourself. as you can probably assess, expertise and free time don’t grow on trees.

how to attract more users

i think most of this disconnect stems from you wanting this to be just like big centralized services. it’s honestly delusional. in another reply you state that “lemmy.world couldn’t handle 10M users”. maybe, but decentralization is only going to make it worse. every lemmy server needs to broadcast every action to every other server which has users in that community. every post and like needs to be stored in all relevant instance dbs. this generates an insane amount of traffic and data. if the lemmy network suddenly gained 1000 servers, each with 10k users, the new replication traffic may stomp smaller instances to the ground.

the idea of a “global square” is naive and we should move over. it just limits us all because a platform which caters to everyone must be built around the common ground, and the common ground for everyone isn’t that much ground. a platform that caters to everyone caters to no-one: see mainstream social media and how it’s going. fedi is great because it’s a whole different model: small islands which can interconnect. this is why picking a server is so important and you should not hide it from the user: you’re not signing up to mastodon, you’re signing up to furry.engineer or fosstodon! you can interact with the other instance just fine, but it matters where you register!

this is the core of the disconnect: we should not bend the fediverse to what mainstream social media is, we should either teach others about this or be fine living as a niche. auto enshittifying ourselves hoping to be another facebook or another reddit feels really silly to me

“us/them” mentality doesn’t help much. this is surely a great fuss for a 3 year old pr but you’re misrepresenting the situation:

• serenityOS (and consequently ladybird) has rather strict rules about wording documentation: they enforce language style and even date formats
• that wasn’t a report, but a PR: rather than pressing ~50 keys on your keyboard and then a “lock” button he could have just pressed the “merge” button and integrated those ~10 total characters changes
• github issues are routinely used to fix wording: documentation often lives on git and it’s useful to have it version controlled, even plain documents without attached source are kept on git so that their edit history is accessible and manageable

folks are making a big fuss but Andreas really set himself up: just say sorry and change 4 words, such a weird horse to die on

there are plenty of articles about regrets and resources about detransition, those who get shouted down usually try to use ridiculously low regret rates as reasoning to limit access to healthcare. marriage has a 43% regret rate, why isn’t your energy spent there instead?

then use “they”, do you speak exclusively with yourself? your linguistic choices affect others, just like others’ linguistic choices affect you (as you were noticing and complaining about)

you don’t understand the language and thus everyone should comply with you? i’d rather read correct english than what you find more understandable

nice whataboutism, “they should do this instead”. oh they do, but you don’t care when they do.

the delivery didn’t deface anything, if you want to focus on the delivery and once again ignore the message at least be honest. willing or not, messages like this do BP bidding

comparing with mullvad is ridiculous and just shows how much you drank the apple juice without questioning

• mullvad doesn’t hold your contact info, like apple right?
• mullvad is open source so you can independently verified which data is being sent, just like apple right?
• mullvad claims to not log anything, like apple and their csam thing on icloud right?

“leave alone the multi billion dollar corporation” energy

if you’re trying to build a chatroom then any chat software goes but if you’re trying to build a community you should probably use something searchable and indexed, like real community software

also i find it laughable that users must already be on such platform, by your logic all communities should be mailing lists

i really disagree with most of your points. a “server” is some machine working for the client. your proposal isn’t getting rid of servers, you’re just making every user responsible to be their own server.

this mostly feels like “im annoyed my instance is filtering content and lacks replies”. have you tried fedilab? it allows fetching directly from source, bypassing your instance and fetching all replies. i think thats kind of anti-privacy but you may like it

if you’re interested here’s a wall of text with more argumentations on my points (sorry wanted to be concise but really failed, i may make this into a reply blog post soon:tm:)

Federation is not the natural unit of social organization

you argue that onboarding is hard, as if picking a server is signing a contract. new users can go to mastosoc and then migrate from there. AP has a great migration system. also federation is somewhat the natural unit: you will never speak to all 8B people, but you will discuss with your local peers and your ideas may get diffused. somewhat fair points, but kind of overblown

Servers are expensive to operate

you really can’t get around this, even if you make every user handle their own stuff, every user will have their database and message queue. every user will receive such post in their message queue, process it and cache in their db. that’s such a wasteful design: you’re replicating once for every member of the network

We should not need to emulate the fragmentation of closed social networks

absolutely true! this should get handled by software implementers, AP already allows intercompatibility, we don’t need a different system, just better fedi software

The server is the wrong place for application logic

this is really wrong imo, and the crux of my critic. most of your complaints boil down to caching: you only see posts cached on a profile and in a conversation. this can’t be different, how could we solve it?

• you mention a global search: how do we do that? a central silo which holds all posts ever made, indexed to search? who would run such a monster, and if it existed, why wouldn’t everyone just connect there to have the best experience? that’s centralization
• again global search: should all servers ask all other servers? who keeps a list of all servers? again centralized, and also such a waste of resources: every query you’re invoking all fedi servers to answer?
• even worse you mention keeping everything on the client, but how do you do that? my fedi instance db is around 30G, and im a single user instance which only sees posts from my follows, definitely not a global db. is every user supposed to store hundreds of GBs to have their “local global db” to search on? why not keep our “local global dbs” shared in one location so that we deduplicate posts and can contribute to archiving? something like a common server for me and my friends?

also if the client is responsible of keeping all its data, how do you sync across devices? in some other reply you mention couchdb and pouchdb, but that sounds silly for fedi: if we are 10 users should we all host our pouchdb on a server, each with the same 10 posts? wouldn’t it be better keeping the posts once and serving them on demand? you save storage on both the server and all clients and get the exact same result

having local dbs for each client also wouldn’t solve broken threads or profiles: each client still needs to see each reply or old post. imagine if every fedi user fetched every old post every time they follow someone, that would be a constant DOS. by having one big server shared across multiple people you’re increasing your chance of finding replies already cached, rather than having to go fetch them

last security: you are assuming a well intentioned fedi but there are bad actors. i don’t want my end device to connect to every instance under the sun. i made a server, which only holds fedi stuff, which at worst will crash or leak private posts. my phone/pc holds my mails and payment methods, am i supposed to just go fetching far and wide from my personal device as soon as someone delivers me an activity? no fucking way! the server is a layer of defense

networks are smarter at the edges

the C2S AP api is really just a way to post, not much different than using madtodon api. as said before content discovery on every client is madness, but timeline/filter managenent is absolutely possible. is it really desirable? megalodon app allows to manage local filters for your timeline, but that’s kind of annoying because you end up with out of sync filters between multiple devices. same for timelines: i like my lists synched honestly, but to each their own, filters/timelines on the client should already be possible.

you mention cheaper servers but only because you’re delegating costs to each client, and the “no storage” idea is in conflict with the couchdb thing you mentioned somewhere else. servers should cache, caching is more efficient on a server than on every client.

a social web browser, built into the browser

im not sure what you’re pitching here. how are AP documents served to other instances from your browser? does your browser need to deliver activities to other instances? is your whole post history just stored in localstorage, deleted if you clear site data? are you supposed to still buy a domain (AP wants domains as identities) and where are you going to point it?

i don’t think it’s unfair to want sustainable tourism, it isn’t either do or dont, there are many ways to do it. think airbnb and rising housing costs: residents may want to have customers AND buy a home in their city

humanity progress is spending cities worth of electricity and water to ask copilot how to use a library and have it lie back to you in natural language? please make this make sense